Through Her Eyes: What Does Your Daughter See When YOU Look In the Mirror?

by Heather on August 10, 2011 · 42 comments

Today’s Guest Expert is Karen Schachter,
Founder of Dishing With Your Daughter

Mother-DaughterAs a therapist and a health counselor, not a day goes by when I am not asked by a woman about how she can lose weight, get healthier, and feel better in – and about – her body. And as someone who specializes in helping the next generation of girls (our DAUGHTERS!) experience peace, nourishment and joy in food, eating and their bodies, I hear as many concerns from moms about supporting their daughters’ relationship to food and helping her develop a healthy body image.

And as a woman myself, who struggled for years with eating issues, and now as a mom of my own 7 year old daughter, these are concerns I completely understand and resonate with. Although I’ve been fully recovered from my eating disorder for over 20 years and have a deliciously healthy relationship to eating, now that I’m a mom I’ve experienced an interesting (and sometimes distressing) resurgence of the concerns and issues that I thought were long gone!

Do any of these worries and thoughts sound familiar? Based on my own personal and professional experience, here’s some of what we moms – particularly moms of daughters – are thinking about:

-How do I help my daughter feel good in her body, even though she has MY thighs (or belly, or butt)?
-How do I show my daughter how to eat healthfully and exercise when I don’t even know how to get MYSELF to do it?
-How can I make sure my daughter doesn’t develop an eating disorder?
-How can I make sure my daughter doesn’t get fat – she’s a sugar addict just like me!
-I’ve always been a chronic dieter – I’m OBSESSED with my weight – but I don’t want my daughter to “inherit” that. Yet sometimes I can’t help being obsessed with what she’s eating too!
-My own mom meant well, but really didn’t support my self-esteem or positive body image. I want to pass on something different to my daughter, but don’t know how!
-How can I make sure my daughter develops a positive self-esteem?
-How can I find the time to take care of myself when I’m working and taking care of kids? I’m SO busy!
-I know I should be taking better care of myself, but don’t know how to get started!
-How can I lose the weight I gained during pregnancy and never lost?
-How can I finally stop dieting and finally learn to enjoy food AND get to a healthy weight forever?
-How can I deal with emotional eating and stress eating and eating on the go? Life is so fast-paced and busy so I don’t have time to sit down to a healthy homemade meal.

There are no quick answers or solutions to these questions, but the most honest answer is this:

If you want your daughter to take good care of herself, to feel good about her body, to feed herself healthy foods, to learn how to limit sugar, to maintain a healthy weight, to learn to eat in a non-disordered way, to learn how to feed her “emotions” without food, then here’s the thing:

YOU, my fellow mom, my companion on this wonderful, often challenging, road of motherhood, YOU must “be the change” you wish to see in your daughter.

Because here’s the truth:

-We can’t teach our daughters something that we have not yet internalized.
-We can’t teach our daughters to love themselves when we are busy criticizing and judging our own selves.
-We can’t teach our daughters that their bodies are worth love and respect – no matter what their size – if we don’t really believe it ‘s true for ourselves.
- We can’t teach our daughters that they are worthy of nourishment and self-care if we are too busy taking care of everyone else to give ourselves the attention we need.
-We can’t teach our daughters to eat healthfully (not in a depriving or overindulging way) if we spend our lives constantly controlling food, or losing and gaining, dieting and binging.

So, first, what do I really mean by “Be The Change”?

Just as Ghandi said, “Be the change you wish to see in the world,” when referring to creating peace, I am suggesting that the most powerful way to create what we wish for in our families, with our daughters, is to BE that thing.

Our daughters will be exposed to powerful messages telling them to primp, polish, pluck and get prettier from every which way they turn. And that’s why they NEED us to be a voice – a model – of sanity in an otherwise crazy-making world. They need to see the people they admire most acting on our own – and our daughters’ – behalf.

You can’t expect your daughter to love her body (“honey, you’re beautiful! You don’t have to be as tall as Susie”) and then make faces of disgust while grabbing the extra roll around your belly when trying on your clothes. She HEARS that disgust.

You can’t be telling your daughter how important it is to eat a healthy breakfast and think for a second that she doesn’t notice that you skipped breakfast and grabbed a diet coke instead. She SEES that diet coke.

You can’t tell your daughter that it’s important to take care of herself and say no to boys or girls who try to pressure her and then run yourself ragged trying to be supermom and taking care of everyone else first. She INTERNALIZES the pursuit of perfection and self-neglect.

If you’re ready to end the struggle, the exhaustion, the deprivation and really feed yourself the “goodies” – both food and otherwise – that you deserve, here are some ideas to get you started. I encourage you to take some quiet time, grab a pen and a journal, and allow yourself to really explore these ideas.

* Begin to treat yourself with kindness (in words and actions). Become aware of how often you criticize yourself, your body, and even other people’s bodies. Challenge yourself to STOP. This is a habit and is change-able. It can have a profound impact on self-esteem and self-care.

* Begin talking about the things you value about yourself – and others – beyond appearance. What values do you admire in others? Seek out friends who express these values.

* Shift out of a mindset of dieting and deprivation (“oh, woe is me, I can’t have THAT”) and instead try to cultivate a mindset of NOURISHMENT and treating yourself with kindness (“I want to eat foods that FEEL good to my body and that also taste good.”)

* Begin to nourish yourself in other areas of your life as well (What are you REALLY craving? Sleep, rest, a conversation with a friend, a new job?)

* Notice how different foods affect you – your mood, your energy, your cravings and your overall wellbeing. Make these links and begin feeding yourself in a way that feeds your body and your brain.

* Slow down, practice saying “no” to things you don’t really want to do, and start tuning into yourself. Say “yes” to yourself, your energy and your wellbeing. Start doing things that fill you up, rather than leave you hungering for more.

* Begin to notice if there’s an area of your life that is subtly asking for more self-expression. Are you giving yourself space to be creative; are you honoring your more spiritual side; are you moving your body the way bodies like to be moved (not “exercise” necessarily but movement that’s fun!); are you cultivating relationships that “feed” you?

* Begin to cultivate a sense of “enoughness.” Enoughness is my made up word that describes this dilemma I see many girls and women struggle with: I am not thin enough; I am not pretty enough; I am not a good enough mom; I am not a good enough student; I don’t have enough time, money or resources; etc. etc etc. The result is that we are on a constant treadmill for MORE, that goes something like this: I will be happy when I’m richer…thinner…prettier…or MORE in some other way. What if you allowed yourself to rejoice in how MUCH you already are and have? What if you allowed yourself to KNOW that you already are ENOUGH?

* Slow down…with food and in your life. Savor. Enjoy. And reap the benefits that relaxation and pleasure bring.

One of my favorite expressions goes like this: “Big doors hang on little hinges.” In other words: small changes can reap huge rewards. You don’t need to become a different person or overhaul your life to make significant and meaningful change for yourself, and for your daughter. Imagine, for a moment, a world where all girls and women knew their true value.

Imagine a world where instead of saying, “what diet should I go on or how can I get rid this belly?” girls and women worldwide began asking, “how do I want to use my life to make the greatest impact on the world?” Rather than spending energy on dieting and hating our thighs, we focus on spending energy on connecting with others, bringing joy and peacefulness to the world. Imagine a world where joy, playfulness, compassion, connection and strength wasn’t just in a girl here or there, but was in every girl and woman.

I hope you’ll join me in “BEING” the change toward creating peace, nourishment and wellbeing for girls and women everywhere.

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Karen Schachter

Karen Schachter is a licensed clinical social worker, certified health counselor, and founder of “Healthy Bodies, Happy Minds” and “Dishing With Your Daughter ™” which offer a variety of programs and services to help girls and women experience nourishment, good health and deliciousness in their relationship to food, eating and their bodies.

Karen has combined her years of psychotherapy experience and her knowledge of nutrition to create a variety of holistic programs, including healthy eating classes for children, workshops, retreats and classes for girls as well as adults, mom-daughter retreats, and health counseling for adults, teens and families. Her programs inspire and support people to value themselves, tune into their intuition, and nourish their bodies, their minds and their spirits. Karen believes that “good nutrition” is only one piece of the “health” and wellbeing puzzle. We must teach our children (and ourselves!) that good health and true nourishment come from paying attention to, and respecting, our bodies, our food and our lives. www.dishingwithyourdaughter.com

 

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  • http://www.soulfilledlife.com Heather Gray

    Hey everyone — sorry for the few glitches with our post this morning, but I believe it’s all ironed out now. (It’s been quite a morning, had a big tree limb to navigate around on my commute down the hill to town this morning.) 

    Karen is all ready for you — she is writing in from her vacation at the Beach.  So send her some loving questions. 

  • Anonymous

    Good morning everyone!!!  it is so good to be here in the Cafe today;)  I’m sorry I’m getting a late start – we had some technical errors this morning, but looks like we’re good to go now. I’m sitting here drinking my hot, rich coffee with cream, outside on the front porch of “our” beach house.  Simple yet deliciously decadent.  (Ever notice it’s the simple things things that bring such pleasure!?)

    Thank you Heather for inviting me to be here today!  I’m so excited to connect with you and this community!  

    What questions do you have about your own – or your daughter’s – eating, body image, relationship?  What about your own relationship with your mom? How did that affect your relationship to your body and to food?  

    I believe that the more we can share our truths on this subject, the more we can create real change for our girls – and ourselves.  The voices telling us that we are not ok the way we are ARE VERY POWERFUL AND LOUD.  Let’s try to quiet them a bit by banning together with equally powerful – yet empowering – messages of our own, shall we?

  • http://www.soulfilledlife.com Heather Gray

    Karen — I love picturing you on your beach house porch.  What is Hannah up to today?

    Just got my coffee (free trade, with organic whole milk) and a piece of home made banana nut bread from the local farmers market.  And it’s a beautiful morning in the Catskills.

    So…I love this article you wrote.  And one of my favorite lines is:
    Imagine a world where instead of saying, “what diet should I go on or
    how can I get rid this belly?” girls and women worldwide began asking,
    “how do I want to use my life to make the greatest impact on the world?”

    That concept is what motivated writing   “Real Girl Real World: A Guide to Being Your True Self” (teen girl guide book I co-authored in the late 90′s) And at the time there were few good books for teen girls (In fact the slim pickings is what motivated my co-author Samantha and I to write it). So in many ways I feel we’ve come a looooong way with positive messages.

    BUT — I also notice that there is a scary message for girls now about being “IT ALL” — be smart, be powerful, be sexy, be beautiful, be talented, be a humanitarian…it’s like you need to be a “10″ in all of these categories.  So we have shows like “Keeping Up with the Kardashians.”

    Karen – is there any way you see for dealing with such a strong message for girls to have to be it all (the better man and the better woman). How can mom’s as role models help show their daughters that this is a recipe for disaster.

    Would love your thoughts.   I know as I grow older, I just realize how much I have to put my blinders on and trust my self with what brings me joy and is calling me forward (my “golden compass!”).  But it’s taken years of trial and error to get that.

  • Karen

    Oooh, your coffee and banana nut bread from a Farmer’s Market sounds divine!  I can’t wait for Saturday and the Farmer’s Market here in Lewes, Delaware. It’s one of my all-time favorites (and I’m a Farmer’s Market fanatic). This Saturday is the tomato festival – hundreds of varieties of tomatoes to sample;) 

    Thanks for your comments about my article and that last paragraph about imagining a world…It’s a dream of mine to imagine a world for my daughter where SHE realizes her true value, her true worth comes from who she is being, what she is giving back.  Those are her true gifts. Yes, she’s beautiful and smart and talented…all lovely qualities…but unless she is sharing them with the world and letting them positively impact others, instead of worrying and wondering if they are “enough,” they will be a burden rather than a gift.

    And I think this applies to your insightful question about girls having to be “IT ALL.”  When we focus on what WE HAVE (and if it’s ENOUGH compared to everyone else), we get stuck in a very anxious place. And in some ways, it’s a very “self-focused” place. But something magical happens when we start focusing on SHARING with others; on caring for others; on loving others; on using our gifts to create more for others.  The magical thing is that we FEEL better. We stop worrying so much about whether we are enough of this or that, but we feel “fuller” in who we are simply by recognizing the positive impact we have on others.  (And this isn’t about depleting ourselves and only being “nice” to others in hopes that others will like us and we will then like ourselves!  Another trap;)

    I sure hope this is making sense!

    And I think we women – moms, aunts, friends, mentors – also have to recognize this.  That as powerful as the “Kardashian” messages are (HAVE MORE, DO MORE, BE EVERYTHING), we DO need to put blinders on. We need to recognize that these messages are not THE TRUTH (in fact, they are made up ideas by marketing experts – the worse we feel about ourselves, the more money we spend on STUFF to HAVE MORE, DO MORE and BE MORE).   The truth is that we already are enough…and I truly believe that the more we can embrace that, the more we can authentically share that with our daughters.

    I will frequently say things to Hannah like “Can you believe how silly that magazine cover is?” or “I don’t like watching or reading xxxx because it makes girls feel like being beautiful is the most important thing. That’s ridiculous!” I also really really try to identify moments that I, or she, or others in our life, do something authentic and meaningful, that has nothing to do with the “do more, have more” mindset – but are generous acts of kindness and creativity.  I have a lot to learn, too, and am still working on embracing these “truths” for myself. Of course, my daughter is a great teacher, as are all our girls. 

  • http://www.safelyembodied.com Deirdre Fay

    This is a great conversation, whether it’s about daughters or for ourselves. 
    I found Karen’s article really thought provoking and Heather’s comment about how we get a strong message to be it all. 

    Those of us who weren’t mothered in, how shall I say, a thoughtful way (?) are prone to pushing ourselves to do it all “right.”   I watch my sister in law parent her kids and see that there’s another possible way.  Yet at the same time I see how my s-i-l is hard on herself, not taking as good a care of herself as she could.  I guess we’re call caught in the trap.

    thanks, Karen, for getting me thinking.
    deirdre

  • http://www.pinkelephantcommunications.com Carrie Klassen

    Karen, this is a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful article! Thank you for sharing all of these ideas. My bad habit, when it comes to food, is to not eat when I’m stressed … what you’ve written around the idea of nourishment (as as state much bigger than, but including food) is key for me. I’m especially going to sit with “enoughness” and how it would feel to truly slow down. Thank you again!

  • http://www.unclutter-organize-transform.com/ Sue Rasmussen

    Hi, Karen and Heather,

    I, too, really LOVE your message, Karen!

    And what you’re sharing impacts all of us women…we are all hearing these very loud messages for us to have it all and to be it all, and it’s exhausting.

    You wrote that “what if you allowed yourself to KNOW that you already are ENOUGH?”

    I struggle with this one more often than I care to admit. I wonder if I’m doing enough, if I’m living up to my “potential,” if I’m sharing something important enough, if I’M enough, period.

    I try to get my arms around that concept in my head…but it doesn’t always make its way to my heart. Do you have any great ways to allow that message to sink deep into our souls?

    Thanks so much, Karen, for sharing your wonderful wisdom today!

    Love,
    Sue

  • Karen

    Hi Deirdre! So nice to see you here!
    You are so right – there is often a “longing” that exists inside of us that we seek to “fill” with pushing ourselves to somehow BE more. The logic goes something like, “If we can have, do and be more, maybe we can be seen, recognized, loved, nurtured.”  But we keep pushing and striving to be more perfect, and it’s not very satisfying in the end. 

    I see what you mentioned in your sister-in-law a lot…we moms often try to do things differently, to be great moms, and often times get depleted; not “mothering” ourselves.  I know that one of the things that would have made a huge difference to me when I was younger (and as I developed) was if my mom were truly happy and fulfilled, and took extraordinarily good care of herself.  (She is now and it’s wonderful to see!)  I try to remember this as I parent my children – they are not just learning how to take care of themselves from experiencing my care FOR them, but from watching me care for and love myself. 

    It’s a constant journey, isn’t it?  When I see it from the child perspective, though, it really does help me recognize how important it is to take care of myself on a very deep level.

    xoKaren

  • Karen

     Hi Carrie!

    Thank you so much!!
    Oh yes, the stress eating phenomenon! I think we can all relate to that. And it’s so compelling because it truly truly does work – in the short term. A cookie, some chocolate, some ice cream, crackers, whatever TRULY does ease those stressful feelings. It’s a quick fix, and I think it’s because it works so well that it’s hard to shift that.

    yet, as you said, it is often a different kind of nourishment we are seeking, that will offer us real relief for that stress.  As I was talking with a client this morning, she talked about how she feels sad about not going out for lunch to one of the “unhealthy” fast food places around her office and getting something there. When we explored further, she realized that it was really that going out and getting “yummy but unhealthy” food was giving her a much-needed break and something exciting to look forward to during her day. She realized that food was just a “stand-in” for what she really needed – a break! Some relaxation; some slowness and savoring…She came up with the idea of eating her homemade lunch in the park for 20-30 minutes instead, as something that would be more deeply satisfying. 

    Our “problems” are always a solution for something – but if they are “not working,” the key is figuring out what would be a more effective solution!

    Glad this article inspired you to sit with enoughness and slow down, Carrie!!

  • http://www.soulfilledlife.com Heather Gray

    Deirdre — so great to hear from you on this topic.  And I love that you brought up your sister-in-law too.  All 3 of my sisters are moms and I’d love to know ways to help bring peace to them, when I see them overly stressing when they are in mom mode,  Karen, any suggestions for doing that in a supportive way, so that it doesn’t feel like being critical?

  • http://www.soulfilledlife.com Heather Gray

    Noticing that there are a lot of “non” moms here today. And wanted to bring up a cool concept and website, called “The Savvy  Auntie”  http://savvyauntie.com

    Karen — have you heard of it?  Kind of feel like there could be some interesting alliance for you there…

  • Karen

     Oh, my Sue, your question is PERFECT!! How easy it is to “know” something in our head, but not feel it in our heart and soul. This is why change is so darn hard!

    And the thing about “enoughness” is not a matter of the “head.” We feel – or don’t feel – like enough, way down deep and so it is from that place, as you suggested, that we need to really ‘get it.” 

    I don’t have any magical ways to do this, but I do have some suggestions.  First, I really believe that these “negative” parts of ourselves (i.e. the voice that says “you’re not enough – DO more!”) have important messages for us.  This voice is there for a reason and we need to listen, rather than simply try to over-ride her. I have a couple of ideas:

    1) There is a process called “Voice Dialogue” that can be very helpful in hearing the messages of our different parts. In short, this is a process where you have a conversation with this part of you.  I like to give her a name (for example, Little Karen – because I feel “little” when I feel “not enough.”)
    Ask her what she feels; what’s not enough; what message is she trying to give the “real Karen?” 
    What I have found, when I really listen, and when I do this process with clients, is that the “sabotaging” or “mean” or critical parts of ourselves are usually trying to protect us from feeling hurt or disappointed or expecting too much (and then feeling hurt or disappointed).  This part of our self is generally “old” and not recognizing that we are grown up now and can handle disappointment and failure. Once you recognize that “she” (this inner negative voice) was really trying to protect you, you can work with that and let “her” know you don’t need her anymore. Thank her for her concern and let her know that it’s ok for you to feel good, to feel like enough, to embrace your amazing gifts.
    I don’t mean to simplify this – it is a process. But I do think the idea of recognizing the message of the “not enough” voice is powerful.

    2) Another idea is to notice every time you ARE enough. Our human brains are somehow wired to notice what’s “wrong.” We try to “prove” our old beliefs (“see, you really aren’t enough, you really can’t do this or that”) and therefore we notice all the things that support this belief, and then we have more ammunition for believing it. 
    We need to recognize that this is NOT REALITY, by noticing the little things that “prove” just the opposite -that you ARE enough. Gather proof, make a list, keep track.

    Thanks for asking such an honest question, Sue. I think this is something we can all relate to and I so appreciate your honesty.

    I would love to hear from others. What do you do to help you feel like “enough?” 

  • Karen

    I have heard of her! Thanks for the reminder  -will check her out again.

    It is interesting that there are so few moms here. I wonder if this topic brings up some guilt/shame for moms? This feeling like somehow we have to have all of this figured out or else we are not being “good” moms? 

    This is certainly not the impression I want to be giving! 
    There are no PERFECT moms!  ;)
    Instead, let’s embrace our imperfections and forge a beautiful road filled with ACCEPTANCE of our IMPERFECTIONS for our girls;)

    Today I made about 10 mistakes already as a mom and it’s only 1 pm! Here are just a few:

    1) forgot to make breakfast for Noah (my son)
    2) yelled at Hannah (my daughter) for drinking her smoothie on the couch rather than the table (even though I had never told her that was the rule at the beach house)
    3) Tried to fix Noah’s hair so it looked better, till he finally pushed my hand away and said “Mom, you always say it doesn’t matter what other people think! Let me wear my hair the way I want to!”  (embarrassing to admit, but yes, he said that)

  • Karen

    Not really;)  I think whenever we want someone else to change, it can feel like a criticism. We have to wait for them to want to change, and then we can offer suggestions, ideas and support. It has to come from them first.
    In the meantime, BE a really great example. Talk about how you struggle and stress, and the things you do to bring peace to yourself. Even though the situation is different (i.e. you’re not in mom-mode), the experience of stress and struggle is similar. 
    ANd just support them and love them.  Ask her how you can help; offer to hang out with the kids; be a mentor for the kids (it takes a village!).  You can’t imagine how far these things go for a mom who is putting out so much to care for her children.  Just knowing we are surrounded by loving, caring people, who love us and love our chlidren is HUGE!!
    Your sisters are lucky to have you!

  • http://www.ginamariamelems.wordpress.com Gina Maria Mele, M.S.

    Karen,
    Thank you for bringing such a powerful topic to the cafe.  I agree a 1000% that we must be the change we wish to see… in our daughters, or family, or community, the world.  I am not a mom YET.  I have understood the fundamental truths you speak about today.  I have decided to wait to begin a family until I did the work on myself first.  It was made painfully clear to me as a young adult: “I was my mom.” / “I was my grandmother.”  / “I was all those nasty behaviors I disliked in my family.”  There was nothing I could do in my external world to change those things I disliked most.  When I began doing the work to change my internal world, those external behaviors began to go away on their own. 

    I now have created an entire business around helping others remove those limiting beliefs / those limiting thoughts (conscious and unconscious), like: “I am not good enough.” / “I am not loveable.” “I have to please others first.” / “I care what people think about me.” / “I am not heard.” / “I am not enough.” / “It is not OK to be me.”   What I have found is as we remove these limiting thoughts, the behaviors they support go away.  Some examples of these behaviors are emotionally eating, emotional spending, putting other’s first in an unhealthy way, not speaking our truth and unhealthy relationships to money within our romantic relationship.

    In my personal life, I have realized making the difficult and rewarding decision to do the internal work on myself first, before starting a family has paid off.  I have recently met “the other half of my soul”.  I am confident Joshua Home Edwards and I would not have met until I had learned to love myself “enough”, so I could love the other half of my soul unconditionally.  Now I am ready to bring another life into this world with this amazing man.  I am confident we are creating a family that is unique to our internal truths, our Light Essences.  We are creating a family that is far more free of our “generational baggage”  that we would have been passing onto our child, unconsciously.  This gift we will give our child is only available because we both chose to do the internal work on ourselves before we met.  And deciding to grow spirituality, doing this internal work, is what brought us together.

    In Alignment with Your Purpose,
    Gina Maria Mele, M.S.

  • http://www.soulfilledlife.com Heather Gray

    Oh my… I have tears in my eyes reading your list of mistakes (“forgot to fed Noah” woops) 

    Such a great reminder of “imperfection” NOT perfection draws us closer to each other and to real love.  (The “shallows” is where perfection hides out.)

    As for the few moms— I even wrote personalized notes to my friends who are moms to entice them to the blog.  I wonder if it’s  the demands and priorities that don’t have them take the time to chill and hang at a virtual cafe.  ??

    DEAR MOMS — we soooo want to hear from you.  Send us a comment…

  • Karen

    Gina,
    Your post really touched me – it’s so full of essential truths, it gave me shivers. Your comment “I was all those nasty behaviors I disliked in my family.”  Yikes. Hard to swallow. Hard to own.
    We do absorb the spoken and unspoken feelings, messages, emotions, thoughts, beliefs…passed on from generation from generation.
    And yet, to blame ourselves or our parents is not helpful. To “wish” it was different, to hope someone else (the external things and people) will change, doesn’t work.
    As you say, it’s only through the inner work that we can really create change and free ourselves of the “generational baggage” that we absorbed.
    And, ironically, it is often these struggles…the work we do…that becomes the gift we can pass on to the world.  It sounds like the business you have created comes through you because of the work you’ve done on yourself. I love that and can relate 100%.
    I used to blame my parents for my eating disorder, but now I realized, as you have, that it’s through healing from that and doing the work that allowed me to have what I have in my life now.  I truly am grateful for that. I also know I couldn’t do the work I do now, and help people the way I do, if it weren’t through my own struggles.

    Unlike you, however, there was still more work to be done when I had my children!  In fact, although I had healed my eating disorder years before, there were unforseen “pain points” that were brought up once I became a mom. Things I didn’t even realize were still there! Fears, anxieties, beliefs.  This process of parenting has been my most powerful teacher to date!
    And I realize my children are probably going to have some of their own “baggage” to carry, thanks to my husband and me ;) But my hope is that for them, like for me, it leads them to a greater understanding of themselves!

    Gina, thank you so much for your comments and insights. It’s great to see you here – Heather has told me a lot about you and I know she greatly admires you and your work!

    Karen

     

  • http://www.unclutter-organize-transform.com/ Sue Rasmussen

    Karen, this is so great that you’re sharing your own ‘mistakes.’ And you know what I find absolutely fascinating? You sharing your own stuff makes me feel even more connected with you.

    I remember, years ago while doing Landmark, having the unexpected insight that we are impressed by other people’s greatness, but we CONNECT with other people’s vulnerability and human-ness. So we’re actually not looking for perfection in other people (even though we often have that unreachable standard for ourselves!)…what we’re really looking for is connection. Authenticity. Being real. Because that let’s us be real, too.

    The idea of accepting everything about ourselves, and inviting the people around us to do the same thing, is so incredibly powerful. I totally love that you brought it up!

    Big hug,
    Sue

  • Karen

    I think you’re right Heather! Moms are busy! I have the luxury to hang out on my porch today because my husband is here on vacation with us and took the kids for a few hours! But so often, moms have a million things on their to-do list, without a whole lot of alone time.

    Anyway, I second your invitation! MOMS, say hi and let us know if you’re here! How can we support you today?

  • Karen

    It is so so true, Sue. I have some friends/colleagues that seem “perfect” or at least pretty close to it. And although I admire some of their traits, I don’t feel as close or connected to them. It doesn’t make me “love” them more.
    It is through our vulnerability that we connect more deeply with each other, and I also think, we grow. We are often so scared of being “seen” as imperfect and we put up our “perfect” walls, yet when we do this, we stay kind of stuck (and we may feel more “alone”).
    As a therapist, I was trained to be more of a “blank slate” than truly authentic. But over the years, as I’ve grown, i realized that that was a “defense” for me. And although it offered some healing for my clients, there was more I could offer. As I’ve become more authentic and real, my clients have felt more connected and have commented about how much more helpful this stance is.  It IS fascinating. We grow in connection with others, and we can only have that connection when we are our authentic selves.
    I love sharing my mistakes! I don’t know why, but somehow each time I do it, I am reminded that I don’t have to be anyone but myself and I can be loved anyway;) (I never used to believe that!) 
    Thanks for your words of support!
    HUG to you!!

  • Karen

    Hi everyone! I’m going to take a walk and meet some friends in town for lunch! I will be back in about an hour and hope to have some more comments to read!  It is a GORGEOUS day here in Lewes, Delaware!

  • Anonymous

    Hi Karen and Heather,  
    Took me a bit to catch up.  I really enjoyed reading your article Karen and all the posts.  I already hear my chatter saying “wow they are such BETTER writers than I”, “I’m not that smart”, etc.  The fears I have is that the chatter in my head leaks out to the ears of my daughter.  I so don’t want her to beat herself up in life like I do and or have.  

    Its a great life lesson having children because you really have to own the messages you are imprinting in their heads and half the time you don’t realize it because its been such a habit.  I think reading these posts is making me realize one again how important it is to not always do what feels comfortable like complaining or judging because you are giving this trait to your kids.
      
    I work at home and don’t have help set up on a constant basis because my work is random so I can’t commit to someone helping me out every week.  It is extremely challenging trying to work and deal with a 21 months year old and my almost 6 yr old daughter.  At times I will get so frustrated and just complain and huff and puff.  But, then I feel bad.  I feel bad that I’m not like other moms who don’t work and get to create projects and give themselves fully to their kids.  That’s where I get into “I’m not a good enough mom” or ” I can’t find the time to do it all”.  And, I’m afraid I’m sending a bad message to my kids that you have to struggle to work and be a parent.  

    Its so important to me to have my daughter feel confident and have it be ok to not be perfect.  
    As I’m getting older and I’m disciplining my children I am more aware of how my parents brought me up that I don’t like.  They were very “vein” and wanted us to be the best.  My dad is very dominant, sarcastic and argumentative.  Guess what type of relationship I have with my husband.  SAME ONE.  I want my daughter to see a different type of love between a man and a woman than I saw growing up.  At times, its easier to just fight with my husband with the kids around.  I know that I’m not sending a good message.  I want them to grow up respecting their relationships.  So, we have to try harder at biting our tongues and having the children see mom and dad having fun and respecting each other.   

    I was so envious of others because they had the bigger house or the cooler parents or more money.  Sometimes I hear myself saying around the house that I want a bigger house or doesn’t so and so have a great home.  And, I catch myself because I’m sending such a bad message of dissatisfaction to my daughter.  

    I want her to feel like she has a mom who is fun, not worried, doesn’t complain, rolls with the punches, appreciate her husband and is content.  

    Well that was a mouthful.  Any advise or words of wisdom on this?  

    Thank you!

  • S Phillips3

    Your work looks great! I’m Heather’s co-author.From time to time, I talk to my daughter (13) directly about these issues,what do you think about age-appropriate direct conversation about the pressure to diet and eating disorders with teen girls?

  • Karen

    Nice to meet you here! I love your book;)

    I think age appropriate direct conversation about dieting and eating disorders is important. Especially as our girls head into their teen years.  They are often getting crazy messages from their friends and the media  and I really think they need to know where we stand and what we believe. They need a place where they can come to process what they are hearing and “learning”.  There are always opportunities to offer a clear, healthy perspective. Just today, i overheard several women talk about the diets they were on and how much weight they had to lose. And the teen we have here at the beach with us to help out said, in front of my daughter, that she doesn’t like the way her belly looks (“too jigglyt”) in a bathing suit, so she wears a shirt when she goes to the beach (and this is a thin, healthy-looking 14 year old girl). 
    My point is that there are ALWAYS these conversations and comments going on (they are so commonplace, in fact, that I think it’s easy to accept them as “normal” but they are sending constant “your body is not ok” and “all women diet” messages to our girls. 
    So…I think through our direct conversations we can help clarify a healthier version of “normal.” 
    Does that answer your question? What do you think? 

  • Karen

    Hi Beth! Thank you SO much for your beautiful and honest post!  I think SO many moms can relate to what you wrote!!
    I had to smile at your last paragraph: “I want her to feel like she has a mom who is fun, not worried, doesn’t complain, rolls with the punches, appreciates her husband and is content.” ;)
    You want her to have a PERFECT mom!!! ;)
    I know, me too!  And here’s the thing and I really believe this from the bottom of my heart, Beth: Our kids don’t need us to be perfect. I think more than anything they need us to be honest – to give clear messages (it’s crazy-making when we say one thing and do another;) and to be working on accepting and loving ourselves, DESPITE our imperfections! 
    For example, my kids tease me all the time because I do tend to be a worrier about some things (big waves in the ocean, for example;).  I let them know that these are MY worries…for me to deal with…so that they don’t have to “swallow” and absorb them completely (of course, they do to some degree, but mostly they know they are “my problem” not theirs). 
    And by accepting your own imperfections, and even being playful about them (i.e. “there I go again, complaining about not having enough time!”) helps your children accept their own. 
    It is SO amazing that you are so self-aware. That you are recognizing some of the patterns that may have gotten passed on from your parents that you feel you are repeating. Because being aware now gives you the power to begin to make a choice to do it differently.  To be kinder and gentler with yourself (rather than vain like you felt your parents were and pushing to be the best) and your family.  Notice when those critical, mean voices come up and see if you can recognize them as “old” – not necessary anymore.  See if you can just soften them a little bit.  One at a time.
    Start with one thing that you’d like to shift…just one small thing. And then move onto the next one.  Something fun that i am going to try is 7 days without complaining.  And if I complain, I have to start all over.  These sorts of things start to build on themselves. When i’m not complaining, there is SO much more room for the “good stuff” to show up!!  I start to shift my perspective and see “what’s right.”

    Want to join me??

    Thanks again for jumping in here. It is GREAT to hear your voice.

  • http://www.unclutter-organize-transform.com/ Sue Rasmussen

    Reading your “I love sharing my mistakes” opened up something HUGE for me!

    My inner self literally sat up and smiled when I read it.

    As authentic as I like to think I am being, I realized as I read about you sharing your mistakes how I haven’t often felt comfortable doing that…and what a wonderful, freeing feeling you brought up around it! Thank you so much, Karen!

    I’m totally embracing “I love sharing my mistakes,” too!!!

  • http://www.parentingmojo.com Tina Feigal

    I teach at Adler Graduate School, where it’s posted all over the walls that a sign of mental health is “the courage to be imperfct.”  Love this, too, Sue, and thank you, Karen, for your incredibly wise words. 

    Moms and all women everywhere need this permission to slow down, be their authentic selves, and set the example for children to do the same.  “Busy” is a curse word, but people use it for a banner of affirmation these days.  I just want to shout “Stop the merry-go-round!  We’re losing our balance!”  It happened to me, too, when my kids were young, and I love coaching parents to let go, now that I have that wonderful hindsight. 

    I guess the idea is that we’re all really in our perfct place, learning our perfct lessons. 

  • http://www.parentingmojo.com Tina Feigal

    I just shared this blog with my Twitter, FB and LinkedIn contacts!  Thanks again, Everyone!

  • Karen

    YAY! 
    I’d love to hear a mistake or two of yours today Sue!
    It IS freeing!!  i am SO glad this opened something up for you!!

  • Karen

    Hi Tina, So nice to see you here!
    I LOVE that sign posted at your graduate school! I have never heard that before! Fabulous!

    You are so right – BUSY is a 4 letter word. I use it too often myself and I am so aware of the longing to slow down and do more savoring.  It is like a merry-go-round – or even a treadmill – we go and go and go, but don’t really get anywhere! 

    Kids are natural at this – they love to linger. Look at the rocks, the shells, the little things. We rush them along because we have so much to get done, yet this is something we certainly could learn from them!

    Thanks for your comments Tina and for sharing that quote!

  • Anonymous

    Thank YOU Tina!  Love this connecting!

  • http://www.unclutter-organize-transform.com/ Sue Rasmussen

    A mistake or two? Only? :)

    Here are a few of the most recent for today…

    1. I just told my two dogs that we’d go for a walk, and then sat down at my computer…so now I have two impatient pooches waiting for me!
    2. I am behind on answering some emails that need decisions from me (and I TEACH people how to keep up with that stuff).
    3. I have some big projects I’m working on, and just watched a movie in the middle of the afternoon instead of working on them.

    And I’m discovering the biggest ‘mistakes’ are the ones I haven’t even made…the things I think I SHOULD be doing!

    Again, very powerful, Karen!

    Warmly,
    Sue

  • http://www.unclutter-organize-transform.com/ Sue Rasmussen

    Such a great reminder, Tina, that everything is perfect, just as it is. Mistakes and all. :)

  • http://www.ginamariamelems.wordpress.com Gina Maria Mele, M.S.

    Karen,
    Thank you so much for your reply.   What you have shared resonates deeply.  I should absolutely clarify that there is still a “potentially unlimited amount” of personal work that still awaits me.  And I am sure that many hidden limited beliefs will be passed onto my children too.  It just feels so good to have a deeper level of consciousness about this topic, compared to just a few years back.

    With Warmth and Gratitude,
    Gina Maria Mele

  • Anonymous

    Hi Gina,

    I completely understand what you are saying! And I think that the more “internal work” we’ve done, the more open we are to the work that awaits us once we’ve become parents.  To go into parenting in a conscious way – what a gift to your children!  

    I look forward to learning more about you and your work!
    Your relationship sounds incredibly inspiring as well and I am so happy for you!

    Love, Karen

  • Anonymous

    I LOVE THESE Sue!!! 
    Dogs never forget a promise!! (They are just like children!).
    And I absolutely LOVE that you shared that you’re behind on emails (and this is what you TEACH!!!).
    Did I mention that I skipped dinner last night, and had a glass of wine and ice cream instead?  Nice role modeling, eh??

    xoxox and thank you!

  • Anonymous

    Karen, I will take that on!  Thanks so much.  Thanks Heather for all the gems you put into my life and you don’t even really know.  I’m always getting something out of your cafe’s and your newsletters, etc.  You are amazing!

  • Anonymous

    Excellent!!! I would love to hear how that goes for you Beth!!
    So nice to see you here;) And I agree with you – Heather IS truly amazing!

  • Wanda Hatton

    ‘How do I want to use my life to make the greatest impact on the world?’…this phrase is already substituting my hunger pangs right now…I was just thinking of what snack I wanted to eat tonight and soooo happy  I happened to click on your message.  I am drinking a cool glass of water and realizing all I need to appease my hunger is to begin my dream of connecting with people from other cultures and countries.

  • Anonymous

     I LOVE it Wanda! WHat a beautiful example of the power of connecting to our REAL hunger and what truly nourishes us. Thank you for sharing – I would love to hear more about your dream and how you will begin it!

  • http://www.ginamariamelems.wordpress.com Gina Maria Mele, M.S.

    Likewise, I look forward to learning more about your work as well.  Thank you and many blessings.

    Gina Maria Mele

  • Heidi Wallace

    Such beautiful and amazing advice. As a mom-to-be, expecting a daughter, I will be printing this out and posting it on my fridge.  thank you for sharing.

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